Interview Recap: Karen Pierce on "Face the Nation," November 10, 2024

In a recent episode of CBS's "Face the Nation," Margaret Brennan welcomed Dame Karen Pierce, the United Kingdom's ambassador to the United States.

Margaret opened the discussion referencing recent comments by European leaders following the U.S. election results. Concerns have been raised about Europe possibly pursuing a more independent path with less reliance on American support. Specifically, the French President has urged Europe to 'take back control,' while Italy's Prime Minister emphasized self-reliance for Europe over dependence on the U.S.

Ambassador Pierce responded by highlighting her belief that collaborative efforts between America and Europe have historically led to successful outcomes. She pointed to the Balkans and other conflicts since the 1990s as evidence. While acknowledging Europe's proactive stance, she also underscored Europe's substantial contributions to Ukraine, a point she feels may not be fully recognized in the U.S. She expressed a desire to discuss these efforts with both incoming and outgoing U.S. administrations, emphasizing the importance of a stable and secure Euro-Atlantic region.

UK's Commitment to Ukraine

Brennan shifted the conversation to the UK's significant military and financial support to Ukraine. Ambassador Pierce affirmed the UK's commitment, detailing an investment of over $16 billion. She highlighted the provision of tanks, anti-tank weapons, and training for Ukrainian pilots, reinforcing the UK's dedication to ongoing support for Ukraine.

When questioned about maintaining this support should the U.S. reduce its aid to Ukraine, Pierce expressed hope that such a scenario could be avoided. She noted the shared goal of achieving security across the Euro-Atlantic and preventing potential success for Putin in Ukraine, which could pose broader threats, including emboldening China.

Concerns Over NATO and Trade

Brennan also brought up comments from Hungary's leader, Viktor Orban, who suggested a U.S. withdrawal from the Ukraine conflict might be imminent. Pierce noted it wasn't the place of European leaders to dictate President Trump's actions. However, she expressed confidence that the new U.S. administration shares the common goal of security and stability, and looks forward to dialogue with them.

On the topic of trade, Brennan addressed European concerns about potential tariffs under the Trump administration. Ambassador Pierce voiced the UK's preference for free trade and their commitment to avoiding a tariff war, which could undermine the economic relationship worth about a trillion dollars annually. She expressed intentions to work with the upcoming U.S. administration to bolster trade and investment cooperation.

Diplomatic Relations and Migration Issues

Brennan queried Pierce on potential diplomatic strains due to past critical remarks about Trump by UK Foreign Secretary David Lammy. Pierce downplayed the significance of previous statements, emphasizing the robust nature of political discourse and the strong, current rapport between UK leadership and Trump.

Further, she addressed global migration issues, acknowledging it as a pivotal concern for voters worldwide. While the UK remains supportive of refugees, Pierce emphasized the need for tackling economic migration issues and targeting the criminal networks aiding illegal migration.

In closing, Pierce expressed gratitude for the opportunity to engage in dialogue, underscoring the UK’s commitment to working closely with both current and future U.S. administrations.

Margaret Brennan concluded the segment, thanking Ambassador Pierce for her participation.