Interview with Sen. Bill Hagerty on 'Face the Nation,' November 10, 2024

Host: Margaret Brennan / CBS News

MARGARET BRENNAN: Let's welcome Tennessee Senator Bill Hagerty, who previously was the US Ambassador to Japan.

SEN. BILL HAGERTY: Happy to speak with you today.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Under the Trump administration initially. Good to have you back.

SEN. HAGERTY: Pleasure to be here.

MARGARET BRENNAN: The election of Donald Trump and Republican successes suggest a clear mandate. Could this lead to an unchecked presidential term?

SEN. HAGERTY: Indeed, it seems this presidency has an unprecedented mandate, as seen in the last three and a half decades. The populace has made their stance known—particularly on issues like Ukraine, highlighting Washington’s disconnect. For example, $175 billion has been sent to Ukraine—an amount surpassing thrice the annual budget of our Marine Corps. I've stood against this in the Senate. The focus should stay at home, safeguarding our priorities over overseas investments. I’ve faced opposition from figures such as Mitch McConnell and the Wall Street Journal, but my stance resonates with public sentiment. Our involvement in Ukraine arose from ineffective policies, like those on energy and Afghanistan.

MARGARET BRENNAN: There are no US forces in Ukraine.

SEN. HAGERTY: True, but I am referencing the substantial amount in financial aid. Such spending should prioritize domestic issues, like border security and urban crime.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Are you suggesting reducing military aid globally?

SEN. HAGERTY: We must adopt an America-first strategy, leading from strength. The current administration’s approach, particularly regarding energy caps, ultimately empowers adversaries due to an imbalance in energy costs. We should bolster our own energy production, leveraging such changes, which are now being considered by entities like the EU.

MARGARET BRENNAN: But these ideas have been around for some time. Let’s address Ukraine. Hungary's Prime Minister mentioned Trump plans to withdraw Ukrainian support. Your thoughts on future Congressional action?

SEN. HAGERTY: I have declined backing Ukrainian aid, and I expect President Trump to strategically tackle this. His approach aims to halt the conflict effectively.

Global Geopolitical Shifts

MARGARET BRENNAN: Complex geopolitics sees countries like Iran and China at play. Are Asian allies concerned by these dynamics?

SEN. HAGERTY: It's crucial to observe that America faltered by not maintaining a firm stance, allowing adversaries like Russia and Iran to pursue aggressive agendas.

MARGARET BRENNAN: During prior administrations, Iran faced pressure to limit its activities.

SEN. HAGERTY: Exactly. These pressures yielded progress, such as the Abraham Accords and relocating the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. The narrative shifted under the Biden administration.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Iran did act aggressively back then as well.

SEN. HAGERTY: True, yet not to today’s extent.

Middle Eastern Peace Efforts

MARGARET BRENNAN: Discussing Israel, talks occurred between President Trump and Israel’s Prime Minister. Any insights?

SEN. HAGERTY: Details remain confidential, requiring sensitive handling.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Given humanitarian concerns in Gaza, how should aid policies be managed?

SEN. HAGERTY: The immediate environment post-election indicates a possible shift towards peace, especially with Hamas expressing intentions towards tranquility.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Are you confident in negotiation outcomes regarding hostages?

SEN. HAGERTY: We await Hamas's next steps, but the new leadership offers promise. This period could lead to opportunities for peace through assertive policies.

Political Strategies and Impacts

MARGARET BRENNAN: Trump successfully attracted diverse demographics in the election. Can this lead to more room in dealing with Israel?

SEN. HAGERTY: Announcing intentions, Trump might focus on Iran, the core issue, which funds various militant groups.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Regarding adherence to US and international laws concerning military aid, is this expected?

SEN. HAGERTY: President Trump will ensure US laws are upheld while safeguarding interests and managing adversaries.

MARGARET BRENNAN: U.S. commitments in Asia are vast, especially with past considerations of withdrawing troops. Is this still a priority?

SEN. HAGERTY: It’s about reassessing responsibilities where allies like Japan now bolster their defenses significantly, a positive direction.

MARGARET BRENNAN: But isn’t signaling troop withdrawal a negative strategy?

SEN. HAGERTY: Our message should inspire allies to enhance their defenses, which we see progressing positively in Asia.

Future Role Considerations

MARGARET BRENNAN: Serving on influential Senate Committees, would you transition to a cabinet position if requested by Trump?

SEN. HAGERTY: Whether continuing in the Senate or another capacity, my focus aligns with strengthening America and supporting Trump’s vision.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Appreciate your insights, Senator.

SEN. HAGERTY: Thank you, Margaret.